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First nondatable side characters that impact Jayces life. Sooooo does that mean David has a chance or am I just hoping? 

Anyway I'm hyped for this Tom update! Even if its a shorter one!

Still no feed notification. Got another email notification for this update.

I didnt get a notification in my feed but weirdly i got an email from itchio where it showed your updates/notifications. 

I think if we take into account the paralells to Juns situation Yuuichi becoming a Tennis Coach would be the most fitting ending. Or at least something to do with Tennis. 

I can see that happening each character has shown to have some chemistry with eachother. The only one where it might be alittle hard is Jun and Shoichi but they could still eventually start dating.

Thanks for the the advice I will try the Synch Framerate! I did wonder why there was so much loading but that may be it nwn.

Also I did see the censor nsfw button that will help alot!

It has been some time since I said I would do a Let's Play of the game, so here it is!  It's not that special but at the very least I can say the game is pretty fun so far!

I am new to this game and I just wanted to ask if it's ok to record a let's play of it?

That was my first idea too. It would start out as Macs route, but then you can choose between Mac or David and at point the two routes would differ significantly.

SPOILER 

I personally think he could still do something with Tennis it may hurt not being able to do it but cutting it out compeltely would hurt too. 

Like he could study to become a coach or something and then he will train Aki to become a pro if he wants to of course. Otherwise he could coach a new generation of Tennis Players.

So weird the devlog didnt show up on my feed. If i hadn't checked i would have missed this new update.

It's true Maccoons route right now has more meaningful David interactions than Maccoon interaction.

Although I dunno how I would feel about turning the whole Mac route into a David route. I think i would still prefer separate routes as long as Mac get some real character on his route.

John will eventually have a route. Part off his route is already in the game. 

But for now Monchi said he doesnt plan on a David route.

Hmm maybe but I don't think anything has been confirmed. It could also just have been some random act of kindness he saw a kid alone and kinda sad so he tries to cheer him up. Just kinda the big brother in him reacting to a boy being alone.  Either way I still love Tom.

Well just try looking for the game folder on your phone. For me i have to go to MyFiles>InternalStorage>Android>data and then search for the socially akward folder. 

Save or move the files folder somewhere safe and then delete and game. Then reinstall it open the game once(otherwise there wont be a game folder) then move the files folder you saved before and put it into the new game folder.

Ok that may be the case but controversial take here. 

If he is in university with Jayce and John he will have to be pretty close age wise. So lets assume he is 17 the first half of the VN won't be NSFW anyway. And until the later half of the VN David could have his birthday and be 18 totally legal. 

I played another game called Tennis Ace where one of the Love interests starts out as 17 and the MC is 19 and they start dating when he still was 17. They do only cute stuff (for all the love interests) in the beginning and only late during the second half of the routes does anything remotely NSFW happen. And by then the love interest was 18. 

And it's nothing weird about it its not like the MC took advantage of him they were friends who just happened to be some ages apart but not as big an age gap than to call it pedophilia. 

Disclaimer this is just an idea and not meant to tell Monchi what to write. Again it's his VN if he doesn't want there to be a David route there won't but the possibility is there.

If we assume Davids route could be a branch off of Maccoons route it could go like his. 

David: "I like you go and fuck my brother"

Jayce:"Nuu too nervous and he is so sexy he would never want me"

They start becoming friends and David continues to try hook up Jayce with his bro. 

But slowly Davids feelings change he and Jayce while trying to hook up Jayce with Mac have bonded over alot of stuff and then when Jayce is about to actually fuck/ask out Mac David realizes his feelings.

Drama ensues. Maybe David would feel he isnt man enough for Jayce because Jayce clearly has a thing for Mac. Maybe the concerns about the age gap could be brought up by Mac himself he likes Jayce but doesnt like David dating Jayce his overprotective brotherly side won't allow it. Maybe after Jayce gets over Mac and actually considers David Tom swoops in and confesses for real (maybe pushed by Mac because again Mac doesnt want David to be dating Jayce) and Jayce would of course consider that too because Tom has been very good friends with Jayce and there is more history there.  There are alot of possible events that have nothing sexual about it before David needs to be of age. And all that could take like several weeks. Unless Monchi wants to keep it by a day by day basis then as convoluted as it sounds just make Davids birthday during one of these days. Or if that doesnt work maybe keep David as a completely vanilla sfw route. Not as popular but you dont need sex for love to exist.

 And again assuming David and Jayce are close enough age wise. And in a fictional setting age is an arbitrary number Monchi as the creator can decide which ages they are, so even if David is 16 right now he can just say he is 17 and later on he turns 18. Nobody can say thats wrong because Monchi is the creator.

I know there is a stigma against aging up characters to sexualize them but come on  pairs with age gaps exists and especially if its still after High School in University and they were friends before actually developing feelings then this is just a normal relationship like any other.

So yeah it is possible to write a David route without making it creepy its just up to Monchi.

That is called a cliffhanger. We won't know until the next update. it's supposed to motivate us to play the next Maccoon Update too.

Oh yeah the panic attack! I didn't wanna bring it up because it was kind of a one off joke. But after seeing a panic attack scene in Toms route I just feel that its handled way  better there. Fixing it with the power of sexy may be amusing alittle but with the same sexy joke  being beaten to death over and over it just takes the charm away. 

Hm I don't really see John and Toms relationship to Jayce that way, but now that you say it you're right they don't  seem to have much in common. 

I guess John and Jayce have the technology aspect with which they can bond. But Tom doesn't  really have anything like that I think. I mean they both hate their Dads. That is something they can relate about.

Also, we know Tom has a crush on Jayce but we never really got to learn why or why Tom even decided to speak with Jayce back in the day. That is easily fixed with future updates tho.

Everything I say, I say in my own oppinion. I don't hate the game or anything, I honestly really like it, and just want it to become the best it can become.  With that out of the way here are my two cents to the update.

The more I play Maccoons route the more I wish there was a David route. 

Partially because David is just such a little buddy. He is adorable and the way David and Jayce both feel kinda comfortable around eachother is just such a nice character dynamic. And they do have something in common, namely El Tigre Lobo who they both are fans of. All in all their relationship just seems very natural.

Compared to that Jayces only real interest in Mac is his beefy himboness. That is one thing I really dislike about Macs route. Its ok to state that someone is hot and its ok to thirst alittle for them but Jayces thirst for the guy is honestly pretty creepy and not cute anymore. That is all he is to Jayce just a piece of meat he literally calls him that several times. Jayces only real connection to Mac is that Jayce is the crush of his best friend Tom and the friend of his little brother David. And I know it's a work in progress and I'm sure Jayce and Maccoon will get closer and learn new stuff about eachother. But the early game Maccoon route doesnt really give me any reason to ship them so to say. Just how I ship Tom and Jayce from their cute interactions. 

Speaking about Tom. I know in love and in war everything is allowed and that on the Mac route Jayce will obviously end up with Mac but its still kinda shitty for Mac to know exactly that Tom has a crush on Jayce but then still persue him romantically. Like I said that isn't anything against Mac if Tom doesn't confess in time. John is also in the same situation and I don't dislike him either for pursuing Jayce romatically. But still with a David route that conflict of interest doesn't exist he wouldn't know about the love life of his brothers friend after all. 

So what I am trying to say is that I like Mac as a character, good enough he isn't  bad, I just really dislike how Jayce acts around him. So the more calm and sweet interactions with David and Jayce are preferable to me.

Also to reiterate this post doesn't  mean I demand Macs route to be removed(which I don't want) or a David Route to be added(what I do want) it's your game and only you can decide that. But what I do wish for is for Mac and Jayce to be better, to get better chemistry other than "him hot bara me bury face in chest".

 Also don't get discouraged from this message Monchi, like I said I really REALLY LOVE the game. Toms route is the best written and the other two routes are very solid. Just keep working on it at your own pace!

Welp those are my thoughts and I am ready to accept all the downvotes I will get.

Make sure to save your save files if you wanna keep them!

No idea why you got a down vote.

Anyway I mean from what I see everyone somehow gets someone in the end in every route not only Harolds. So i don't think thats a factor. 

So yeah i think its just because of backstory etc.

Yooo hyppeeee not only the first few days of the Rickard route but also another day for our Lion Darius! 

Well it seems I'm the only one with that problem, so thats good. Also I played through the Tom update so I wont open the game until the next update again. So I just hope the next updates android version won't have that problem. Maybe it was just a one time fluke. Take your time with the next update nwn!

I tried both but for both the same outcome. And I tried it several times and only got it to work twice. I dunno what i did differently to open the game normally those two times, it seems random if it decides to work or not. And if i close the app after it just worked it will not work again after. 

Also I didn't know that you planned on only working on Tom and Maccoons route for the forseeable future. It's unfortunate for John and Rask fans but I think its a good idea to focus on one or two to bring the story forward.

Ok i have some problems with the android build. It starts up normally with the renpy logo but then the game doesnt start. I managed to get it to work once but most of the time after the renpy logo it will just be a black screen. No idea what could be the problem.

Any Tom Update is a good update no matter how short it is.

Yeah fixing that would be the easiest way to correct it. But you can also just copy your TSR save files to that interea game until they fix that. Just go to the game folder of TSR and copy the saves to the Interea game folder. Normally the game folder is in Android>data>echoproject.smokeroom and then just copy the files into the .interea game folder. 

Well you can copy your save files from the game folders on your phone.

Anyone else have this be a thing where the android version instead of TSR is called Interea? Its still TSR inside but it just created a new app icon for it. 

All the bois are good bois. No need to put them up against eachother, that includes Cooper too btw.

Just wanted to say so glad Darius got an update! He is my favourite and I look forward to whatever you have planned for him! Also wondering what you mean with something Darius related we can look forward to in the update message.

Is that canon? Because David is in college together with Jayce and gang so i thought he would be the same age as them. Macoon and Tom are older while Rask, John and David would be around the same age.

Yayyy Jun Update!

Even though i agree that Flynn is probably one of the guys who care for Chase the most (i would even go as far as to say he probably loved Chase) i don't see a future with him ok. He turned into the Monster of Echo becoming a timeless being. The most i can imagine is Chase and his monster form facing eachother in the sequel and Chase like sacraficing himself to safe the two new main protagonists from his old friend. Also Flynn liked Chase way before Chase was possessed. Flynn did imply he liked Chase alot more when Chase was snarky and had a sharp tongue as a kid. Leo only really started liking Chase after he was possessed so Flynns love is more true to the real Chase.

SPOILER FOR FLYNN ENDING!

That is because that ending leads into the sequel game that takes Flynns route as "canon" i think. "Arches" is about the Bear and Fox couple that Chase meets in this ending and thats why i think it it says TBC. The Echo story itself is finished(except Jenna).

The few new Rune CGs in this update both are so cool! The first makes Rune look like a badass that he is before he seemed too much of a goofball. But now we see that he is both a badass and a horny goofball. I wonder if Coop eventually also loosens up and be more open with the human like Rune.

And the other CG looks so friggin Anime I love it! It shows off again the badass side but with his goofyness too. They mix together so well!

Coop is so cute! Wish there was a way to  spend more time with him. But my favourite has to be Alon right now. We love our edgy boi.

Jay is so perfect it hurts. I'm such a sucker for flirty characters already and Jay had to be that, handsome and funny! 

After all the main routes are done i really hope the team considers maybe giving Jay a route too somehow.

Btw looking forward to how the other routes will play out. Especially the Dom and/or Axel route.